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bdehaan
Rookie

Dynasty (D)
28 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2010 :  08:59:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For those who do not know me I am the first baseman on team dynasty.

An incident happened when dynasty played padres last night where a player hit a home run and walked off the field. The padres threw the ball to first where the batter was out. As I understand the rule is that a player must touch first base when a hr is hit and therefore I am not disputing the padre’s decision to make that play or the ump to make that call.

What my problem is that half of the umps are telling the players to walk off the field and not making them touch first base. What would happen if an ump tells the batter to walk off and then the other team’s appeals and throws to first base?

To me the walk off rule should be that you hit a hr and simply walk off. What is the point of touching first base if you are going to walk off anyways? And in this case the ball went out of play so how can the fielders retrieve the ball and then throw to first base when the ball went out of play?

I just hope that in the future the umps can all make the same call and stick with it.

Great game with the padres last night. I think I saw your lead off hitter taking oxygen in the parking lot as you guys abused him for running lol

Good luck next week




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CockyJockey
Team Player

Lights Out (A)
306 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2010 :  14:32:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree, the HR rule should just be to hit it, and walk off without having to touch first base. There is really no point.
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Shaw
Rookie

Diamond Cutters (A)
21 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2010 :  18:10:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
didn't the padres also dispute a hr hit with a grey dot against Lights Outs. Because it wasn't the official ball even tho a grey dot is not as good as the super gold dot we use.
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bigcam406
Team Player

Eagles (D)
153 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2010 :  19:03:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i was under the impression that you had to touch first anyways,so whats the problem? if you are going to crank one over the fence,how hard is it to jog to first?
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nEoNgObY
Forum Admin

Sharks (B)
145 Posts

Posted - 07/20/2010 :  00:29:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Guys, and don't forget the rule applies to both the batter and any runners that are on base. Each player must take their next base and then walk off.

Zaffar Siddiqui - The Sharks
(OSPL Webmaster)
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CockyJockey
Team Player

Lights Out (A)
306 Posts

Posted - 07/20/2010 :  05:15:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

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That was protested as soon as the ball was thrown in, umpire allowed ball to be used and when shown the rule after the inning, he took it back. We didn't 'protest' homerun, we protested ball being thrown in before pitch was even thrown. And as for it being a grey dot or whatever, all we knew was it wasn't what we as a league use, and didn't want to give Lights Out anymore ability to hit home runs then they already have.



That grey dot was tossed in during the game before ours by the Tigers. It wasn't tossed in to the ump by me before our game started, it was just kept by the ump between games. And if you protested the ball before the game, how come I wasn't called into the discussion? It's over now anyways so it's no biggy.


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Originally posted by bigcam406

i was under the impression that you had to touch first anyways,so whats the problem? if you are going to crank one over the fence,how hard is it to jog to first?



You are supposed to touch first, and it's not hard to do it. But if I hit a no doughter, why even bother jogging to first base, it just wastes that extra little bit of time, that could be needed to get an extra inning in. Nothing to do with being lazy. And I'm going to assume that you don't hit to many lol (just stirring the pot bro ).

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bigcam406
Team Player

Eagles (D)
153 Posts

Posted - 07/20/2010 :  08:15:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
you must jog slow then.....
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bdehaan
Rookie

Dynasty (D)
28 Posts

Posted - 07/20/2010 :  08:34:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
First off I am not mad at the Padres at all. You guys did thie right thing to call it out and I am not mad at your team in any way. My beef is with the umps not being consistant with the rule. Some tell you to walk off before getting half way to first. So what would happen there if u are told to walk off and then the team protested ?

Umping this year has not been that great. I would like to see all rules be enforced by all umps and not just a few.

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Shaw
Rookie

Diamond Cutters (A)
21 Posts

Posted - 07/20/2010 :  19:56:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bigcam406

i was under the impression that you had to touch first anyways,so whats the problem? if you are going to crank one over the fence,how hard is it to jog to first?



the same thing could be said for jogging all 4. how hard is that? the point is, its pointless. if your going to eliminate the the jog around the bases why then be picky about the guy having to make it 1st. this rule should in no way effect the outcome of a game. theres rules and then theres ettiquette so lets remember we are just playing league here.
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bigcam406
Team Player

Eagles (D)
153 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2010 :  01:13:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
were not talking about all 4.the rule was brought in to quicken the game.the rule states you must touch first.60 ft,thats about 20 strides,about 5-7 seconds to complete the task.i guess thats too much work for some people.geez.....
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Wingnut88
Rookie

Home Life Heroes (C)
16 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2010 :  01:52:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm against all forms of technical nitpickery and penny-pinching for outs. Either go to first, walk right off, do a handstand on the plate, whatever. It's softball, not dinner with the queen. We shouldn't be so anal about trivial formalities that only end up pissing people off and/or causing controversy. Robbing a guy of a homerun and costing a team an out because he didn't perform some frivolous protocol correctly is just silly.
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mcbrizz
Team Player

Lights Out (A)
102 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2010 :  18:45:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bigcam406

were not talking about all 4.the rule was brought in to quicken the game.the rule states you must touch first.60 ft,thats about 20 strides,about 5-7 seconds to complete the task.i guess thats too much work for some people.geez.....



exactly right so if its a no doubter then walking right off is alot quicker isnt it... i see absolutly no point in going to first if the ball is over the fence

should i just walk off
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bigcam406
Team Player

Eagles (D)
153 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2010 :  23:23:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
then why wasnt these points brought up at the meeting when the rule was introduced? no one there said it was pointless to go to first,everyone agreed with the rule as is.
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tickledtoad
Rookie

Mills Pontiac (A)
48 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2010 :  10:07:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think yo uguys are being too nice. I see it as another d!ckhead move by the Padres to try to get a run back. It is a bush league play to try to get the ump to enforce that rule. If you need to win that bad that you have to get homeruns called back because the guy didn't touch first or it was the wrong ball ( and not even as good of a ball as the one we use!) then maybe you are in the wrong league. We play to win but not at the expense of pride. Do you really want to win a game because you got a run or two taken back by a rule technicality , or do you want to win a game because you put up more runs than the other team and earning a win.
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bdehaan
Rookie

Dynasty (D)
28 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2010 :  12:33:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nEoNgObY

Guys, and don't forget the rule applies to both the batter and any runners that are on base. Each player must take their next base and then walk off.

Zaffar Siddiqui - The Sharks
(OSPL Webmaster)



I have never seen this enoforced.

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bigcam406
Team Player

Eagles (D)
153 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2010 :  23:46:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i have quite a few times
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